Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Neither team scored in the 3d. If DV was doing all the bullying they would have ran it down their throats in the 3d already trailing by 14 They were driving in the 3rd and then they had those back to back to back false starts on 4th and 2. That drive killed more than half of the quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: They stopped Desoto's offenses last year Well they dominated both lines, easily. Durham ran for a ridiculous 309 yards last year. Yesterday in the 2d half he had 3 carries for 4 yards. (His total yards from last year were cut in half.) DS made great strides improving their OL/DLs. their OL bullied DV, Bailey had lots of time to complete passes and the run game was just as effective. The main reason the O put up 42 pts. if Riden played they would have controlled the clock n ran it down DV throat, limiting DVs possessions. It would have been a 38-24 type game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Well they dominated both lines, easily. Durham ran for a ridiculous 309 yards last year. Yesterday in the 2d half he had 3 carries for 4 yards. (His total yards from last year were cut in half.) You can't run down 21 in the 4th. The fake punt forced Duncanville to pass. Mathis wasn't dumb. He knew his defense wasn't going to stop Duncanville, so he had to keep scoring. 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: DS made great strides improving their OL/DLs. OL 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: their OL bullied DV, Bailey had lots of time to complete passes and the run game was just as effective. The main reason the O put up 42 pts. He scrambled pretty well and bought time. 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: if Riden played they would have controlled the clock n ran it down DV throat, limiting DVs possessions. It would have been a 38-24 type game No it wouldn't have been. If these two played again, you'd get a high scoring running affair with either team winning. Turnovers and a couple of big plays would decide the game like last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: They were driving in the 3rd and then they had those back to back to back false starts on 4th and 2. That drive killed more than half of the quarter. They’ve been having penalty issues all year long. But you wanna know why those happened? They weren’t use to trailing in the 3d by 14. the pressure got to them. Durham didn’t go off like they thought so they panicked like they did in ‘21 v NS in the title game when NS took the lead 17-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: You can't run down 21 in the 4th. The fake punt forced Duncanville to pass. Mathis wasn't dumb. He knew his defense wasn't going to stop Duncanville, so he had to keep scoring. OL He scrambled pretty well and bought time. No it wouldn't have been. If these two played again, you'd get a high scoring running affair with either team winning. Turnovers and a couple of big plays would decide the game like last night. Once again, DS won last night with a 3d and 4th string RBs…DECISIVELY! That’s a glaring fact that can’t be overlooked when we talk hypothetical rematches. Mathis ran for it b/c DV wasn’t looking for it. the opportunity was there and they took it. Easy conversion. DV offense wasn’t some great threat last night scoring at will. If DV OL was so dominant why didn’t they just give it to Durham and him go off for 250-300 yards like last year? Edited October 29, 2023 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Horsefly said: They’ve been having penalty issues all year long. But you wanna know why those happened? They weren’t use to trailing in the 3d by 14. the pressure got to them. Durham didn’t go off like they thought so they panicked like they did in ‘21 v NS in the title game when NS took the lead 17-10. Durham wasn't the reason they lost. Two reasons I highlighted. The fake punt putting the game out of reach and turnovers Edited October 29, 2023 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Once again, DS won last night with a 3d and 4th string RBs…DECISIVELY! That’s a glaring fact that can’t be overlooked when we talk hypothetical rematches. Mathis ran for it b/c DV wasn’t looking for it. the opportunity was there and they took it. Easy conversion. DV offense wasn’t some great threat last night scoring at will. If DV OL was so dominant why didn’t they just give it to Durham and him go off for 250-300 yards like last year? Going into yesterday's game DV had outscored its opponents this season 354-26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: Going into yesterday's game DV had outscored its opponents this season 354-26. Yes I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Once again, DS won last night with a 3d and 4th string RBs…DECISIVELY! That’s a glaring fact that can’t be overlooked when we talk hypothetical rematches. A HB is irrelevant when you're getting a push 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Mathis ran for it b/c DV wasn’t looking for it. the opportunity was there and they took it. Easy conversion. He went for it cause he knows he had nothing to lose. He doesn't get it and an extra 25 yards isn't going to help his defense. On the other hand, a conversion gives him an opportunity to go up 21 and seal the game. 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: DV offense wasn’t some great threat last night scoring at will. If DV OL was so dominant why didn’t they just give it to Durham and him go off for 250-300 yards like last year? Because offensive coaches get to cute. That's what i would've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Durham wasn't the reason they lost. Two reasons I highlighted. The fake punt putting the game out of reach and turnovers The quality, speed and size of the RB is definitely a factor. They probably never would have punted with riden and trawick in the game. The fake punt didn’t lose the game and wouldn’t have been needed. The secondary getting torched right out the gate did. Having sloppy STs did. Those weren’t flukes. DS scored 14 points and only ran 1 offensive play. And it was the same kid, and their best athlete. Why the hell kick it to him to begin with? Because DV didn’t focus on details like that. Edited October 29, 2023 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: A HB is irrelevant when you're getting a push He went for it cause he knows he had nothing to lose. He doesn't get it and an extra 25 yards isn't going to help his defense. On the other hand, a conversion gives him an opportunity to go up 21 and seal the game. Because offensive coaches get to cute. That's what i would've done. You explained in a lot of words him taking adv of the opportunity. Lol of course he wanted to go up 21. His mentality is different from samples, he’s going to take more risks and stick the dagger in a team. He was successful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: The fake punt didn’t lose the game. Smh It made a huge difference. Duncanville would've gotten the ball back down 14. Guess what happened when they got the ball back after the fake punt TD? Huge run TD 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: The secondary getting torched right out the gate did. Having sloppy STs did. Those weren’t flukes. DS scored 14 points and only ran 1 offensive play. And it was the same kid, and their best athlete. Why the hell kick it to him to begin with? Because DV didn’t focus on details like that. Nobody is saying Desoto was getting stopped, but they weren't stopping anyone either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: It made a huge difference. Duncanville would've gotten the ball back down 14. Guess what happened when they got the ball back after the fake punt TD? Huge run TD Nobody is saying Desoto was getting stopped, but they weren't stopping anyone either. They did several times in the red zone. If they didn’t stop them then why did Durham only have 3 carries in the 2d half for 4 yards? What stopped him? Hell, that’s not even getting past the LOS on avg. Like I said, a healthy DS, and Durham and co. would rarely see the field DV just needs to regroup, work on some things and get ready for NS. This one is done. Edited October 29, 2023 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: They did several times in the red zone. If they didn’t stop them then why did Durham only have 3 carries in the 2d half for 4 yards? What stopped him? Hell, that’s not even getting past the LOS on avg. We went over that. They went down 21 after the fake punt and started passing. 19 of their 42 passes came after that Fake punt TD. That's 45 percent of their pass plays for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Just now, Steeler01 said: We went over that. They went down 21 after the fake punt and started passing. 19 of their 42 passes came after that Fake punt TD. That's 45 percent of their pass plays for the game. The stats still don’t lie. Durham still only had 3 Carrie’s for 4 yards in the 2d half. Mathis took the opportunity on the fake punt and it paid off. (Of course he wanted to go up 21 points)DS made them one dimensional going up big. And somehow you think that’s a fluke outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: The stats still don’t lie. Durham still only had 3 Carrie’s for 4 yards in the 2d half. Mathis took the opportunity on the fake punt and it paid off. (Of course he wanted to go up 21 points)DS made them one dimensional going up big. And somehow you think that’s a fluke outcome? Whose saying otherwise? That play took the run away in the 4th. You can't keep running the ball down 21. It wasn't the Desoto defense, it was that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Whose saying otherwise? That play took the run away in the 4th. You can't keep running the ball down 21. It wasn't the Desoto defense, it was that play. I’m not emphasizing he only had 3 carries in the 2d, but that it ONLY yielded 4 yards! What caused that? Regardless, they won’t get 10x games to play this out, they had the 1 and DV didn’t deliver. they’ll play again next year, we’ll see if DV can pull it out. Edited October 29, 2023 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I’m not emphasizing he only had 3 carries in the 2d, but that it ONLY yielded 4 yards! What caused that? I'd have to watch those plays again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: I'd have to watch those plays again Unfortunately, I think they’ll face a similar problem with NS except NS is much bigger than DS on the DL. But that’s 7 weeks away still. DV has time to address their issues. But giving up 42 points on defense isn’t going to get it done v north shore. Not with their QB back Edited October 29, 2023 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lowso305 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Overrated. Both of em. seeing these two teams matchup gsb how do you think they fair against norland & central? Wouldnt be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lowso305 said: Overrated. Both of em. seeing these two teams matchup gsb how do you think they fair against norland & central? Wouldnt be close. You must be a fake, troll account, every time a Texas subject gets clicks you show up, but oddly I can barely find other recent posts by you in So Fla threads. Lol Edited October 30, 2023 by Horsefly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Horsefly said: You must be a fake, troll account, every time a Texas subject gets clicks you show up, but oddly I can barely find other recent posts by you in So Fla threads. Lol Not a representative of Florida. A rogue, unsanctioned bot not to warrant a response other than to mock and laugh at. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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