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[Texasball]

52 minutes ago, All Dei said:

Exactly.  Can't believe you let this 🤡 stay...

@All Dei @GardenStateBaller

Speaking of MD/SJB - in your words - what changed to make these two programs so dominate?   Not many years ago neither could hardly beat DLS or even CC 

DLS has who who's list of oos games which they got beat all while stomping mud hole over California. 

Tell us all how these two schools went from having handful of D1 kids to entire roster of D1 kids. 

Where do the players come from?  We know there is no boundaries for you to worry about.

Tell us how it is really done!

What you have now is not what you had 8-10 years ago.  

Can someone tell the damn truth!

 

[GardenStateBaller]

9 minutes ago, Texasball said:

@All Dei @GardenStateBaller

Speaking of MD/SJB - in your words - what changed to make these two programs so dominate?   Not many years ago neither could hardly beat DLS or even CC 

DLS has who who's list of oos games which they got beat all while stomping mud hole over California. 

Tell us all how these two schools went from having handful of D1 kids to entire roster of D1 kids. 

Where do the players come from?  We know there is no boundaries for you to worry about.

Tell us how it is really done!

What you have now is not what you had 8-10 years ago.  

Can someone tell the damn truth!

 

Easy. Winners attract winners. MD has been winning MNCs since 1994. And SJB is benefiting from 1. the two being in the same league and 2. having beaten MD over the past 10 years. 

[GardenStateBaller]

16 minutes ago, pied said:

I think the question is why didn't they have as many top transfers in 1995, or 1999, or 2003 or whatever.  Why did this change more recently. To your point, MD has been one of the nation's top programs for many years but only started getting the number of transfers recently.

When DBP was winning MNCs 10-15 years ago ballers were transferring to NJ from TX and OH. The same happened when BG was at its peak. Same goes for MC today. Since the Rockets won a Natty last season they're all of a sudden getting xfers from CA and TX. Winners attract winners. How is this so hard to comprehend? 

[GardenStateBaller]

1 hour ago, pied said:

 

You're avoiding the question.  You state, accurately that they have been winners for decades (citing the '94 title) but aren't explaining why they didn't see the number of transfers then than thye have now.

 

I agree, winning attracts players and students.  Up until recently, it has not attracted the numbers we are seeing now.

 

What has changed?

Transferring wasn't as common and so easy to do without penalty in the 90s than it is today. 

[GardenStateBaller]

2 minutes ago, TEXASFROG said:

I've been saying the exact same thing for about 4 years now.   If Texas played by the same BS policies and rules as California or even a few other States.   There would be 15 Super-Power teams across the State each year loaded with over 30+ D1 kids.

Houston would have 4-5 teams

Dallas would have 4-5 teams

San Antonio have 2 teams

Austin would have 2 teams

East Texas would have 1 teams

Golden-Triangle/SE TX area would have 1 teams

HELL, even the Lubbock Region could probably put together a scrappy team loaded with some top end talent.

I mean look at the teams around Allen, TX (Allen HS, Lovejoy, Melissa, McKinney) and you could have a Power-house loaded with D1 talent

HELL, just look at Conroe (Woodlands, Oak Ridge, Willis, Conroe High, College Park).

Katy..

Pearland, Manvel region

Fort Bend Co... LOL

This idiots like the blowhard complete TOOL of a clown from New Jersey have not F'N clue.

 

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[GardenStateBaller]

1 minute ago, TEXASFROG said:

It wouldn't..  But hey, let's let the idiots like the clown shown "GardenStater" have his little moments.

I can see why he has to hang it on recruited up All-Star teams like MD, SJB, IMG and BG.   We all know New Jersey is a f'n joke

NJ has beaten Bishop Gorman NV once, St Thomas Aquinas FL twice and De LaSalle CA twice. No other state can stake that claim, Chadwick! 

[GardenStateBaller]

3 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

What were the ranks of the NJ teams playing those games and where do they rank all-time in that state?

You know how to use CP. Have at it!!

[GardenStateBaller]

1 minute ago, TEXASFROG said:

New Jersey Ball 2022:

Duncanville TX- 44   Orlando Jones - 21

Orlando Jones-14    Orlando Edgewater-13

Edgewater- 34   DBP (NJ)- 10 - - TALK ABOUT AN ASS DRILLING!!

DBP- 31  ( Nationally Ranked) Bergen Catholic- 7    

 

Two months later BC beat DBP 45-0 in the State Chip game. TX always does well against mediocre publics. Need I say more? 

[GardenStateBaller]

Just now, TEXASFROG said:

Ohhhh... and TX teams have beaten Bishop Gorman, DLS and Hollywood-Chaminade.  Ha-ha-ha.

It's just to easy idiot.  Ohh I meant the TOOL idiot that built Florida State football for the Coach Bowden.   Ha-ha-ha

You left out STA. No other state has beaten them twice. 

[GardenStateBaller]

 

 

[GardenStateBaller]

11 hours ago, TEXASFROG said:

New Jersey ball has lived off of two private schools forever (DBP and Bergen Catholic).  Every now and than for a hot second some other Private school comes in a shakes the tree for a year or two and goes away.  But I loved it back around 2013-2015 time frame when all the RECRUITING there was getting exposed and all the Pot Calling the Kettle Black by DBP and Coach Toal which was comical.    Coach Toal crying like a little Beeccchhh because other schools were just doing what he was doing.  Ha-ha-ha.

I remember the Jabrill Peppers days at Bosco..  Living an apartment that some Alum was paying for.

Jabrill Peppers says.. "Don Bosco Coach Toal recruited me to come play at DBP when I was in the 8th Grade."

Coach Toal upset when Peppers transferred to Paramus Catholic..." Paramus Coach Haley stole a bunch of my players and has a history of recruiting."   POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK..

DBP Coach Toal.. "I know what took place, if we going to buy what they're selling we would be stupid.  They suddenly have 30-40 transfers.. It's a Joke."

Jabrill Peppers..  "I don't know what he is mad about, he recruited me to DBP."

DBP Coach Toal alleges that ST. Joseph football coach is recruiting DBP players..  POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.

DBP WR Leontee Caroo (4-Star prospect) from Edison NY (40 miles away) lives with DBP host-family the Yankovich's while attending DBP.

Ya..ya..ya...  Hey idiot kid GSB.  guess what idiot..  todays teams like Mater Dei, SJB, IMG, BG have taken that crap and put it into Hyperdrive!!!

DBP has won two (2) Nattys in the last 14 years. How many TX teams have done such in that same period. Patiently waiting....

[GardenStateBaller]

2 minutes ago, pied said:

In Texas (TAPPS)not for athletic purposes(or Fine Arts). 

 

Section 87 – Solicitation of Students

The following rules apply to all TAPPS member schools in regards to high school students and those entering high school.  For those TAPPS member schools which provide educational opportunities prior to high school, these rules extend to students in all grades provided at the TAPPS member school.

1. SOLICITATION Unlike public schools, our member schools are not aided by geographically drawn attendance zones to provide a given student enrollment base.  Families choose private and parochial schools for a variety of reasons other than geographic location, such as religious affiliation, parental participation, class size, academic programs, faculty and staff.  For our member schools to survive, it is essential to solicit families to choose one of our member schools to educate their child / children.

   1. Forms of Acceptable Solicitation

      1. Billboard Advertising

      2. Mailings

      3. Open House

      4. Campus Visits to feeder schools

      5. Visits to churches

      6. Those things that promote the school to prospective families.

   2. Examples of Unacceptable Solicitation The unacceptable solicitation of students by school personnel, school volunteers, parents, or any other third party is a violation of TAPPS rules and may result in the loss of the affected student’s eligibility to participate in TAPPS events.

      1. School personnel campus visits targeting athletes

      2. Mailings to specific athletes or groups of athletes

      3. Open House for athletes

      4. Tryouts or combines for athletes

      5. Those things that target specific students for their athletic ability

      6. Materials that negatively reflect on other TAPPS member schools

2. INDUCEMENT What is not to be included in the solicitation or retention of students is the inducement of students by a member school. The inducement of students by school personnel, school volunteers, parents, or any other third party is a violation of TAPPS rules and may result in the loss of the affected student’s eligibility to participate in TAPPS events.  Inducement includes but is not limited to the following:

   1. Offer or acceptance of the payment of tuition

   2. Offer or acceptance of a reduction in tuition payments (outside of School Financial Aid Programs)

   3. Offer or acceptance of board

   4. Offer or acceptance of lodging

   5. Offer or acceptance of transportation

   6. Offer or acceptance of a job for a parent or guardian

   7. Offer or acceptance of payment for athletic camp registration

   8. Offer or acceptance of payment for summer conditioning programs, or conditioning camps

   9. Offer or acceptance of cash payments

   10. Offer or promise of University or college scholarships

   11. Offer or acceptance of free or reduced cost private instruction

   12. Offer or acceptance of any other valuable consideration

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P5d_J7j5hSzJMhP4nrdGpsx5zJixJbtonn3qUxYgNrs/edit

All privates in America offer need-based financial aid, which allows entry to all comers! 

[GardenStateBaller]

12 minutes ago, pied said:

Financial Aid does not mean the same thing as recruiting. At all.

 

They work hand in hand in offering fantastic opptys for those who are deserving. Private high school education has never been more accessible than it is today. 

[GardenStateBaller]

5 minutes ago, pied said:

 

 

Absolutely financial aid is a good thiung for many reasons, but according to TAPPS it cannot be used as a recruiting tool.  Moreover the members are specifically not allowed to recruit students based on athletic ability which pretty much counters all of his discussion.

 

Examples of Unacceptable Solicitation The unacceptable solicitation of students by school personnel, school volunteers, parents, or any other third party is a violation of TAPPS rules and may result in the loss of the affected student’s eligibility to participate in TAPPS events.

1. Those things that target specific students for their athletic ability

True. Household Income is what determines the amount of financial aid, not athletic prowess. 

[GardenStateBaller]

4 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

2009: Abilene [Calpreps]

2012: Allen [Calpreps, Massey]

2013: Allen [HSFBA, Blue Star Media]

2014: Allen [MaxPreps, HSFBA, Blue Star Media]

2015: Katy [Maxpreps, Massey]

2018: North Shore [Maxpreps, Massey]

2020: Austin Westlake [Blue Star Media]

If you want to include split MNCs, then DBP (2009-2011) has three just like Allen. 

[GardenStateBaller]

2 hours ago, SeaShells21 said:

Unanimous ones are hard to win; even for power privates.

Miami Central isn't complaining!!

 

[GardenStateBaller]

 

[Testadura]

7 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

If you want to include split MNCs, then DBP (2009-2011) has three just like Allen. 

I’ll take it.  I haven’t heard news this good since 2011.  

[All Dei]

On 9/5/2023 at 9:22 PM, TEXASFROG said:

I've been saying the exact same thing for about 4 years now.   If Texas played by the same BS policies and rules as California or even a few other States.   There would be 15 Super-Power teams across the State each year loaded with over 30+ D1 kids.

Houston would have 4-5 teams

Dallas would have 4-5 teams

San Antonio have 2 teams

Austin would have 2 teams

East Texas would have 1 teams

Golden-Triangle/SE TX area would have 1 teams

HELL, even the Lubbock Region could probably put together a scrappy team loaded with some top end talent.

I mean look at the teams around Allen, TX (Allen HS, Lovejoy, Melissa, McKinney) and you could have a Power-house loaded with D1 talent

HELL, just look at Conroe (Woodlands, Oak Ridge, Willis, Conroe High, College Park).

Katy..

Pearland, Manvel region

Fort Bend Co... LOL

This idiots like the blowhard complete TOOL of a clown from New Jersey have not F'N clue.

 

Damn, that's a helluva lot of time you spent pulling together all that info. 😆  Just do it then.  Tell your governing body to change its rules.  Tell your governing body you're sick and tired of CA coming in and kicking your asses.  Tell them you want the freedom for players to go where they want.  (Well, to be clear, "more" freedom, cuz come on now, TX kids can go where they want already if they try hard enough (shhhhh!!!))  Until you make that effort, just stop bitching and deal with it. 

And guess what?  Just bc it's easier for kids to move around doesn't mean any TX teams would necessarily be better than MD or SJB.  Those two regularly kick the crap out of the other private schools in the area and the publics who get even more transfers than they do (well, than MD does - Jason is definitely the king of transfers), like Los Al.  The coaching at MD and SJB is second to none and I wouldn't be surprised at all if those two would continue to beat anyone in TX, regardless of who the TX teams' players are.  Superior coaching equals Cen10 coming within a point of beating IMG, MD beating IMG, MC beating IMG, MD beating SFA in '19, etc.

[All Dei]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:45 AM, GardenStateBaller said:

All privates in America offer need-based financial aid, which allows entry to all comers! 

Indeed.  FAR MORE "regular" (for lack of a better word) students at MD get financial aid than football and hoops players.  MD is in a very under-served, largely Catholic neighborhood and lots of kids attend MD whose families can't afford it themselves.  

[Texasball]

On 9/6/2023 at 9:40 AM, GardenStateBaller said:

DBP has won two (2) Nattys in the last 14 years. How many TX teams have done such in that same period. Patiently waiting....

lol - mythical 

[GardenStateBaller]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GardenStateBaller]

5 minutes ago, pied said:

Jesuit's first three games have all been high scoring thrillers.

 

L 34-39 @ Hebron

W 60-59 Rockwall

W 41-39 @ JJ Pearce

 

Seems like they need a little attention on the defensive side of the ball.

 

2-1 and the aggregate margin is negative 2.

 

It's TX. Aledo has given up 80 points in its two wins. Guyer 59, Katy 56, Cita 55, Prosper 54, Lovejoy 51, Melissa 47, etc. 

[GardenStateBaller]

23 minutes ago, pied said:

Now do Duncanville, DeSoto and North Shore. 🙂

I don't have to as their opponents combined record is 2-9!! 

[GardenStateBaller]

4 minutes ago, pied said:

Teams you listed opponents records are a combined 7-13.

 

 

A winning % of .350 trumps .181.